im currently in week 5 of a gh cycle, my personal goal is cutting it depends what you want to achieve i guess. When you let me know your goals i can share some ideas and advice

peace

 

Goal, cutting up and maintaining what I have, I am 7 weeks post cycle of deca. Still have strength and size. Been having some trouble lately with the ejaculations but I know that will cum back. I can get my hands on as much as I can afford and at a good price. In essence, keep size or increase it a little but mostly fat loss. I have heard that 14 percent fat loss in 6 months is normal with no exercise and 8 percent lean muscle mass. Again with no exercise. I train 5 days a week each body part once. Mostly lift heavy. I do have access to some gear but wanted to try this by itself first. I am 5'7" @ 208 lbs. I dont know how many stones that is.

 

ok bro, well i would suggest starting at 3iu per day, split into 2 shots one morning and one afternoon, you dont want to be using it at night as we produce most natural gh at night. I would suggest to use some t3 with it, just a minimal amount like 10mcg per day would be sufficient, simply as gh has been known to lower t3 levels. If you have access to blood work while on even better to keep an eye on ur levels, unless you wanted to do any all out t3 cycle in which case i would suggest using aas with the gh. If you feel ok with 3ius you can go up to 4iu same in split dosages, it really works differently for different people at different doses, so you will have to see where you feel most comfortable, however most people i know are using it between 3-4iu daily. hope that heps, i personally run it with var/tren/nolva/ldex/eq/test this time but wouldnt hesitate to run it alone while cutting. Alot of people say its a waist of money and i have to say so far i cant see any miracles happening but its early days i plan to stay on 6 months, if you got any questions let me know

peace

 

I am new to the gear lingo so I dont know what T3 is. I am 43 years old and know that the GH levels are not what they used to be. I have been lifting for along time and have some decent size. Is T3 Tess? And if it is does GH lower T3? I can get my hands on some tess if this is what you would suggest. I can also get my hands on some equopise (spelling). I was reading on a site about the amounts and they recomend 4 iu. That most people dont take enough to notice anything. I do know that the body takes time with this substance, probably even 1 year for youthfullness.

I am also taking CLA, V12, lots of vitamins and some snake oil. Just kidding about the snake oil but I take alot of stuff. I will have the GH in my hands tomorrow early afternoon. Hey, I also heard that you should take it 3 hours after your last meal before bed time. This true?

Later and thanks for the input.

 

i take mine in the morning and afternoon due to short half life, i dont take it at night last thing as i said, we produce most gh at night time, just as you fall into deep sleep, so for it would be a waist anywhere within 5 hrs near to bed time. t3 is thyroid hormone, its becoming very hard to get hold of, some popular brands are tertoxin 20mcg tabs by glaxo wellcome, or T3 by uni pharma liothyronine sodium 50mcg tabs, also known as cytomel. I guess you know about sc injections and not im ?? anyway i would never suggest anyone new to gear delve into gh so soon, i have researched a good number of years before starting, however for older people they reckon it works the best (no offense) however for youthfullness i dont think you need higher dosages, most people are talking 2-3ius max for maintenance to attain their goals.

peace

 

Thanks,

The life extension/rejuvination site suggests 1iu a day. At that rate it would last me 5 months. Now, I think that this might not be enough. Lowering the t3 what is the side effect of that?

I really dont want to mess with the thyroid hormones as If I ever got off the thyroid hormone my thyroid might be atrophied. That is one of the more dangerous ones to play with. HGH is relativity safe with little side effects from what I read. I know reconstiting you have to be carefull and it requires refrigeration. I know that a stack with it works brutal. If I was going to stack which one? I am off of a 13 week cycle of deca at 600 a week. I dont want to do deca again as it really messed up my sex drive at my age. Seems to take along time to come back. Although I got 14 reps with 225 today on bench and this is only 1 rep under while I was cycling. I really dont know what is going on. I am taking V12 and that might be helping too.

My tess levels might be a little low 7 weeks post cycle. What effect does GH have on your own tess? Sorry for all the questions, I want to be ready for tomorrow.

Thanks.

 

hgh doesnt have any effect on test levels, t3 is known to be lowered by hgh usage, thats why i said earlier if you have access to bloodwork you can find out for sure, if you go hypo thyroid then your metabolism slows, hence gain of fat and other sides, thats why always suggest to use a minimum amount with gh, personally i have done with and without and have also checked my thyroid 4 weeks in, and its at normal levels. If you were gonna juice with gh for cutting purposes, i would suggest to look more into eq/tren/prop type compounds

peace

 

From what ive read its good advice, ill be honest with u and admit i dont know that much about HGH but i am looking into it and researching it atm.

 

Sweet, that is good advice. Is it true to eat more? I heard that it (HGH) works better if you eat alot of good food. Is this true? I want to lose body fat and gain muscle and I have access to gear. Does the rule of 1.5 grams per 1 lb. of body weight still apply? More, less? I also heard that you can be hypo glycemic (spelling) on the HGH? Up the carbs? Just checking....Again sorry for racking your brain, I just want to know and be ready for the cycle tomorrow.

Question: EQ or Tess? Dont forget to give amounts! You can e-mail me if this is better or just post.

I am looking for being leaner, but getting huge is not a bad thing either. HAHAHA

 

I done an HGH cycle a while back and can honestly say it's over-rated and not good value for money. OK I will admit to not eating right on my cycle and could have done it a lot better, I was taking it for mass but it was probably lack of calories that let me down. But I will say this it ripps you like no other drug and it is practicly impossable to get fat on it.

I can't really give any more advice than The OJ but feel free to ask me any questions about my cycle

 

i would agree with raven on the overrated part well so far but as i said it hasnt been long enough for me to say, if i was going to cycle, i would add test and eq, if you are leaning out something like 500/400 test/eq would be a good combinaition for 10-12 weeks. Remember to have nolva on hand and clomid for pct. As for eating i would say with gh you can eat maintenance and more and still get lean, however its not the miracle some people think, dont be suprised if you dont see much difference

peace

 

But if its good for cutting, great bring on some hgh, hehe

 

No doubt, cutting would be a good thing too. I have always been a little on the heavier side since after I hit 35. Will be 44 next month and leaner would be just fine with me. I also heard that DHEA therapy is recomended. Beings that that stuff is a over the counter I will pick some of that up as well.

Rips you up? Sounds good. Women like lean men so I dont have a problem with that at all. Man, I am really pumped on using this stuff and will try not to get my hopes up too hi.

 

hey, 1cc = how much iu? or visa versa?

I have not gotten my insuline needles and want to take the hgh shot and only have 1" 22 guage needles can I sub q that?

15 I.U. Humartope and 5ml M-Cresol mixing solution

I mixed it up and cant seem to do the math. I think it is 1/2 cc a day but I just cant seem to figure it out.

 

1 cc is going to be 3iu at that dosage bro, mine come in 18iu vials and only 2ml of solution, so i mix 1.8ml with 18 iu so each 10units on slin pin is 1iu of gh. I wouldnt use a 22g needle, you are better off with 26 or above anything up to 29 is cool

peace

 

Thanks, I just borrowed (1.) 28 guage needle and did about .7 cc and that would be about 2iu. I am going to start slow at first and see what is up. I used the bigger guage for mixing and tossed that when I was done. With that small of a needle, It was easy and did not notice any pain at all. That needle looks like a hair. I like it and thanks for all the advice. I will keep posts on my gains or not. Heck, I might not see any gains but at my age, I just might. Either way, it will be a learning experiance and I feel that I cant go wrong. If I notice gains, I can always buy more.

Later, I really like this BBS, it rocks.

 

I told you that it looked like a hair. They even flex if you dont get it in straight. I hope that works good for you, but the cost is really a bit much. Single guy like yourself, screw it. Spend your money. If it does work we can go where you got it and try it out. If it does work I want to see what the post cycle is like. If it is anything like the gear then im out..........ha ha ha.

 

Right!!!! I'll keep you posted. You will be the first to know. Lets see how I sleep tonight.

I am eating 4 meals at work instead of 3. When you are hungry, you better eat right then because if you wait, you go hypo. Sucks, I guess there are side effects to everything and that is one side effect that I dont mind.

I do have a question though, A guy told me to eat crispy cream donuts to help the blood sugar. Is this true? I think I would beel way too guilty for all that. Can I take in more simple carbs? Would this be a good idea?

 

Check the articles section, I've just put up a post that may be of use to you

 

Just read the article section, that is the most information that I have read on all the sites put to gether that I have been reading.

It is day 2 and I am down 1 pound in body weight. I did notice that if you feel hungry, you better eat right away as I could feel myself getting hypoglycemic. I just ate 2 hrs. before.

I need to pack more food into my lunch as I have been hungry the whole day even though I just ate. I dont get it, I eat because I feel hungry and then I am still hungry after I eat.

 

I figured out why I have been so hungry. I am hyperglycemic. I have been using DHEA for 3 days now and I am not nearly as hungry. I was reading in a nurses book about DHEA and they were saying that DHEA is good for hyperglycemic. They recomend 30 to 90 mg. a day and I have been taking 75-100 mg. It also says that it metabolized to androstenedione. Says that DHEA is good for increasing strength, energy, muscle mass, stimulation of immunity, improvement of cognitive function and memory. Says that it has an improvenent of depressed mood/fatigue in HIV patients. But it may increase risk of prostate, breast and hormone sensitive cancers. Oh well it works well with HGH and I am not as hungry after I eat. Just food for thought folks. I need to buy that nurses drug handbook.