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Old 17-05-2005, 09:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, I started my HELIOS yesterday, so im gonna let you know how i get on with it.

For those of you that dont know what HELIOS is, it is a water based injectable, which is injected SUB Q to aid in local fat loss.

The ratio is in one bottle (50ml bottle) you have 40mcg of clen with yohimbine hcl 5.4mg per ml

It works by being injected SUB Q on the place you want to loose fat, the liquid presses the fat (triglycerides) out off the lipocytes (fatcells) into the blood, and you have to burn it with aerobic training after the injections.



I started yesterday morning with 1ml in my lower left abs, then i done another 1ml pre-workout at night in my lower right abs.

I then done another 1ml this morning into my upper right abs.

I made a mistake of taking 120mcgs of clen oral yesterday morning, then using the HELIOS (Wasnt thinking) which was 2 x 40mcgs clen dosages!

So at night, i had taken in 200mcgs of clen - I was shaking so much i thought i was gonna break my back!

Cramps are also a little bad this morning, esp in my Jaw, Neck and also arms from typing.

I take it, its not going to harm me by taking it in the morning and not working out - I simply do not have time to do it in the morning, so im sure it will be ok, as long as i eat sensibally upto lunch (I.e NO biscuits, Bacon sarnies, etc )

PM is ok, as i do it pre workout.

I would be lying if i said it didnt hurt, but its not a great pain.

It hurts as it goes in, and hurts for about an hour afterwards, no more than the pain of a bee sting tho.

Clare also tried it, but she only managed 2iu of her 0.5ml doesage because of the pain (it is the 1st time shes ever had an injection, apart from at the docs!)

Shes keen to try again tonight.

Anyway, I`ll keep you all updated on my results, takes around a week before you start to notice some change, and reports of upto 7% BF loss have been obtained in a month on this stuff.

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****** NOTE ********

As i have been writing this, i have just found out that you are not supposed to inject 1ml into a single spot!

You should do 2.5iu into 4 spots or 5iu in 2 spots if you BF is 15% or over.

Ooopppppppppssssie!
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Keep us updated paul,

What size pins do you have you use with it?

Also if you have to shoot the same barrell into more than one spot, will you need to change the pin every time or just use the same one? - when you see the doctors doing botox on the telly they seem to use the same needle 10+ times on the same person.

Does the clen give you all the normal side effects?

and also I read somewhere that you should take T3 orally with it? are you?
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paul use some Taurine with it this will calm the cramping down mate..
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Keep us updated paul,

What size pins do you have you use with it?

Also if you have to shoot the same barrell into more than one spot, will you need to change the pin every time or just use the same one? - when you see the doctors doing botox on the telly they seem to use the same needle 10+ times on the same person.

Does the clen give you all the normal side effects?

and also I read somewhere that you should take T3 orally with it? are you?
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Im using B & D Insulin Needles 12.7mm x 29g with 1.0ml syringe from medisave.

Yes, just use the same needle, no need to swap (well you cant on insulin pins anyway)

There so small, 3 - 4 jabs from one is still painless.

Yes, so far the clen is giving me normal side effects, although the jitters are quite big, dunno if its over dosed or just acts quicker, but they are more sevear.

Yes, im running T3 along side it at 50mcgs ED with no taper (Low dose)

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myprotein.com do a 1kg of Taurine at a really reasnable price mate i go upto 200mcg of clen before a show all i do is take 10g of taurine throughout the day and it sorts the cramping out...
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I got some Red Bull in preparation for my upcoming T3 cycle, but there didn't seem anything near as much as I needed of Taurine according to back of tin. Got four or five bottles of Taurine caps as wel now, but it's costing a bomb!


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you don't need taurine with T3 mate only with Clen
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Oh yeah, I should have mentioned I'm running Clen alongside it, sorry. :o

Also, I'm going to eat shedloads of bananas for Potassium - I think that's the one to take for T3.
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